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{{Jinx|Cannibal|cannibal|Good|If the Cannibal eats the Poppy Grower, then dies or loses the Poppy Grower ability, the Demon and Minions learn each other that night.}} | |||
{{Jinx|Lil' Monsta|lilmonsta|Evil|If the Poppy Grower is in play, Minions don't wake together. They are woken one by one, until one of them chooses to take the Lil' Monsta token.}} | {{Jinx|Lil' Monsta|lilmonsta|Evil|If the Poppy Grower is in play, Minions don't wake together. They are woken one by one, until one of them chooses to take the Lil' Monsta token.}} | ||
{{Jinx|Marionette|marionette|Evil|When the Poppy Grower dies, the Demon learns the Marionette but the Marionette learns nothing.}} | {{Jinx|Marionette|marionette|Evil|When the Poppy Grower dies, the Demon learns the Marionette but the Marionette learns nothing.}} |
Latest revision as of 22:08, 10 November 2024
Type | Townsfolk |
Artist | Z. Benetatos |
Revealed | 18/03/2021 |
"In the hidden groves of the deep forest, the black poppy dwells. To see its revelry is to be enchanted. To smell its thick aroma is to be lost forever, a slave to the gods of light and dark."
Character Showcase
Related Jinxes (Open)
If the Cannibal eats the Poppy Grower, then dies or loses the Poppy Grower ability, the Demon and Minions learn each other that night. |
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If the Poppy Grower is in play, Minions don't wake together. They are woken one by one, until one of them chooses to take the Lil' Monsta token. |
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When the Poppy Grower dies, the Demon learns the Marionette but the Marionette learns nothing. |
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If the Poppy Grower is in play, the Spy does not see the Grimoire until the Poppy Grower dies. |
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If the Poppy Grower is alive when the Summoner acts, the Summoner chooses which Demon, but the Storyteller chooses which player. |
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If the Poppy Grower is in play, the Widow does not see the Grimoire until the Poppy Grower dies. |
Summary
"Minions & Demons do not know each other. If you die, they learn who each other are that night."
The Poppy Grower prevents the evil players from learning who each other are.
- The Demon still learns three not-in-play characters that are safe to bluff as.
- If the Poppy Grower dies, the Demon and Minions learn who each other are, as though it were the first night again.
- If the Poppy Grower becomes drunk or poisoned, Demons and Minions do not suddenly learn who each other are. If the Poppy Grower is drunk or poisoned when they die, Demons and Minions do not learn who each other are, since the Poppy Grower has no ability that night.
- An evil Traveller still learns which player is the Demon when that Traveller enters play.
How to Run
During the first night, wake the Demon. Show the THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOT IN PLAY info token, then any three good character tokens that are not in play. Then, put the Demon to sleep. Do not do the Minion Info and Demon Info steps.
If the Poppy Grower dies, mark them with the EVIL WAKES reminder. That night, wake the Minions and let them make eye contact. Show the THIS IS THE DEMON info token, then point to the Demon. Put the Minions to sleep. Wake the Demon. Show the THESE ARE YOUR MINIONS info token, then point to the Minions. Put the Demon to sleep.
Examples
The Imp, the Poisoner and the Witch are in play. On the first night, the Imp wakes to learn 3 not-in-play characters, but does not learn which players are the Minions. The Poisoner and the Witch do not wake to learn who each other are, and do not learn who the Demon is.
The Poppy Grower is executed, and dies. That night, the Shabaloth learns which players are the Minions. The Godfather and the Baron wake, make eye contact, and learn which player is the Shabaloth.
The Poppy Grower is the Drunk. On the 1st night, the evil players learn who each other are, as normal. On the fourth night, the Demon kills the Poppy Grower. The Demons and Minions do not wake to learn who each other are again because the Poppy Grower is the Drunk.
Tips & Tricks
- Keep it secret keep it safe. The Poppy Grower's biggest strength is the paranoia they create by denying the evil team their greatest strength.
- Come out ridiculously loudly, because someone boldly claiming to be a Poppy Grower so fiercely is just weird, that it is going to make the evil team second guess who you are. They might leave you alive because it seems like you're a character trying to get killed like the Farmer. Additionally, the Demon may not wish to ‘confirm’ that you’re the Poppy Grower by killing you.
- As the Poppy Grower, you are essentially single-handedly responsible for the evil team's lack of ability to coordinate. Take special notice of any two players who are claiming to be the same character. One of them is possibly a Minion, because they haven’t obtained their bluffs from the Demon.
- On the first day, pay attention to who mingles and who keeps quietly to themselves. Minions, being cut off from the rest of their team, will be extra cautious because they will have no information to start with. Specifically, watch for players' body language as they're likely to unconsciously communicate their anxiety and isolation. Be suspicious of those players who are last to reveal their character, as they might be Minions.
- You are likely to be seen by the evil team as an important target for death in the night. Be very careful about who you share your role with.
- Each day, share your role with one new player. If you die at night early in the game, it's a good chance that one of the people you confided with is actually the Demon specifically, and not a Minion, because a Minion would have no easy way of communicating who you are to the Demon. Of course, nothing stops the Minion from revealing you publicly, but at least you're taking a definite Minion down with you.
- As Poppy Grower, you can pretend to be an evil player to deceive evil players into thinking you are too. Go around secretly to various players and let them know you know a Poppy Grower is in play as code that you're an "evil player". They might bite and confide in you.
- If you die, watch for sudden changes of behaviour. The evil team has suddenly gained a lot of information and can coordinate better. This can include:
- Players who previously weren't voting, start voting
- Players who were voting strongly for one player suddenly change their target
- Players who come out shortly after you die (who have likely just received a bluff from the Demon).
- If you don't come out after you die, the evil team knows exactly who you are but the good team does not. This means that the players who are paying you a little bit too much attention might actually be the evil team trying to hide their actions from you.
- If you can manage to arrange being drunk or poisoned when you die, the evil team do not learn who each other are. While this can be incredibly tricky to pull off as there are not many good characters that can make you intentionally drunk, it has a massive payoff.
- Come out on the final day, if you’re still alive.
Bluffing as the Poppy Grower
When bluffing as the Poppy Grower, there are a few things you should keep in mind:
- As an evil player, you will know for certain whether there is a Poppy Grower in the game or not. If you learn who your fellow evil players are, there is no Poppy Grower. So, the Poppy Grower can be a safe bluff not only for a Demon who was not shown the Poppy Grower as "not-in-play, but also for the Minions. The Bluff is so safe, that (similar to bluffing as the Atheist), you may find that other evil players have also claimed to be the Poppy Grower secretly to others, and you have accidentally ended up with several fake Poppy Growers.
- When nominated, claiming to be the only thing stopping the evil team from being introduced to one another can be quite a compelling argument for being spared. However... you will need to come up with an explanation as to why you lived through the night.
- You can tell one or two people that you’re the Poppy Grower and make the good team erroneously believe that they are winning the game.
- Tell no-one that you are the Poppy Grower, get yourself killed by some means, wait until the end of the day, and then announce that particular people who had private conversations today are likely to be evil, since the evil team just found out who each other were.
- If the Poppy Grower is in play, bluffing as the Poppy Grower anyway is likely to lure them out. The real Poppy Grower will know you are lying, but at least the Demon knows which player is the Poppy Grower now. The good team may even be hesitant to execute either of you, for fear that the evil team will learn who each other are once the real Poppy Grower dies.
- Poppy Grower is a great bluff to make after you die. It subtly projects a message that the evil team are about to become much more coordinated than before, and if you’ve already been operating together pretty well, it will make you seem that much more imposing. The good team losing faith in their victory may be the boost you need.
- Poppy Grower games often have a strange vibe to them. Similar to a Legion game, the good team can feel that something is subtly wrong. It's hard to pin down but this is mostly due to the evil team struggling to figure out what their plan is a team. Nevertheless, some games just have a weird feeling to them, as if everyone is being too quiet, or nothing really seems to add up. If your game has this feeling, consider switching from your initial bluff to a Poppy Grower bluff, as a way to explain the feeling to the good team. Coming out as the Poppy Grower after a few days of the good team saying "what is going on? This feels different." may elicit feelings of clarity, and relief. Normally, it is wise to choose a character to bluff as and have that bluff influence the game. Sometimes, it can be wise to let the game dictate which bluff is the most appropriate.