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"I am not a freak! I am a human being! Have mercy!"

Appears in Information

Type	Outsider
Artist	Aiden Roberts

The Mutant is killed if they try to reveal who they are.

Character Text

"If you are "mad" about being an Outsider, you might be executed."

Examples

Ten seconds into the first day, the Mutant says to the group that they’re the Mutant. The Storyteller declares that the Mutant is executed immediately. There is no nomination for an execution today, since there can be a maximum of one execution per day.

A Witch privately talks to the Storyteller and says that Evin, who is playing the Mutant, told them they are the Klutz. The Storyteller chooses to execute the Mutant immediately.

The Mutant tells the group that they are a Townsfolk, but does not say which one. When questioned if they are the Mutant, they stay silent. After a minute or so of silence, the Storyteller executes the Mutant.

The Mutant says they are the Oracle, gives some bogus Oracle information, then says "By the way, I am definitely not the Mutant" while giving a subtle wink. The Storyteller chooses to execute the Mutant immediately.

Tips & Tricks

Never admit to being the Mutant. Never even admit to being an Outsider. "Admitting", of course, is a tricky thing to define. In Blood On The Clocktower, the term "mad" is used instead. What this means, is that if you try to convince anybody that you are the Mutant, the Storyteller can (and should) execute you immediately. Or, if you try to convince the group that you are an Outsider, the Storyteller can (and should) execute you immediately. This is the judgement call of the Storyteller, and the Storyteller will make their decision based on what they think you are trying to do, not just the words you use. For example, if you tell the group that "you might be the Mutant, but might not be", then the Storyteller may judge that you are trying to convince the group that you are the Mutant, and execute you. Or, if the whole group is asking what your character is, and you stay silent, refusing to say who you are, then the Storyteller may judge that your silence is a way that you are trying to convince the group that you are the Mutant, and execute you.

Be proactive. Don't stay silent. As discussed above, Mutant players that stay silent the whole game tend to get executed by the Storyteller. If you talk, pick a Townsfolk to claim to be, and do your best to convince the group that you are a character other than the Mutant, then you almost certainly won't get executed. For example, if you spend the game convincing people that you are the Oracle, and give the best, most sensible sounding information that you can, you won't be executed. And, if the Demon kills you because they think you are a threat, then that's fine too! After all, if you die at night, it means that another good player (which, statistically speaking, would have been a Townsfolk character) doesn't die instead.

Deliberately coming out as the Mutant has some benefits and some drawbacks. On the one hand, if your execution goes off, you will be confirmed as a good player, and everyone will believe you. On the other hand, that's an execution that the good team don't get to dictate themselves, and if you go off too early in the day, you can block characters like the Savant. Artist and Juggler from using their abilities. Finally, the storyteller may simply choose not to execute you, which will leave you in an ambiguous state of unconfirmed despite not satisfying the madness of your ability... which will make you look especially evil.

Come out secretly to one or two players you trust. You're going to be bluffing as a townsfolk, which can look suspicious and cause problems for you down the line (especially if your information isn't adding up with what the other players are getting). Admitting the truth early on means that the people you trust will know to discount your information and protect you from accusations. (Additionally, knowing about your presence can be particularly important for determining if there is a Fang Gu around!)

Beware the Storyteller! They will be on the watch for you fulfilling your madness, and it won't take too much for them to execute you, thus denying the good team a chance at killing the Demon! Avoid mentioning your true identity within earshot of the Storyteller, but also be wary about revealing to suspected evil players - they can tell the Storyteller what you've said, and get you killed that way!

Bluffing as the Mutant

When bluffing as the Mutant, there are a few things you should keep in mind:

The Mutant is an excellent fallback bluff if your more difficult/risky claim is falling apart under you. As a Mutant, it would make sense that your Oracle information doesn't add up, since you're lying to cover for yourself!

If you reveal your "identity", the Storyteller can't execute you, since you aren't actually the Mutant. Blame this on the Mutant's "might" condition - the storyteller only executes you at their discretion, and might spare a Mutant to make them look more suspicious/avoid confirming information for the town. Claim this is what is happening when you are not executed.

"Reveal" secretly to a couple of players to gain their trust. This is a good move as a regular Mutant, and if they believe you, they'll cover for you when other players become suspicious of your haphazard or confusing information claims. Because your death is an execution that takes control away from the good team, players will be compelled to protect you and your identity. This will also serve to keep them preoccupied in the meantime, which is a nice bonus for you!

The Mutant doesn't have a lot of information, and is a hard bluff to pull off logically. Try to play the 'emotional' side of the character instead. Appealing to people to help safeguard your true identity, acting nervous around the Storyteller and players suspected of evil, and trying your best to be helpful are all hallmarks of a real Mutant player!

One huge advantage of bluffing Mutant is the ability to confuse the Outsider count. Urgently whispering to good players that "that Sweetheart is lying, because I'm the real Outsider!" introduces the danger of a Fang Gu being the demon in play. At the very least, it casts doubt on existing Outsiders when they come out, since you've added yourself to their number. The secretive nature of the Mutant makes this an especially potent tactic since you can (and should) convince other players to argue about your existence for you, meaning the poor real Outsiders will have a harder time confronting you directly and tracing your terrible lies back to your evil team!

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-<p class='flavour'>"Wisdom begets peace. Patience begets wisdom. Fear not, for the time shall come when fear too shall pass. Let us pray, and may the unity of our vision make saints of us all."<p>
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-The Saint ends the game if they are executed.
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 == Character Text ==
-"If you die by execution, your team loses."
+"If you are "mad" about being an Outsider, you might be executed."
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-There are seven players alive and nominations are in progress. The {{Good|Saint}} gets four votes and is about to die. Then, the {{Evil|Baron}} is nominated but only gets three votes. No more nominations occur today. The {{Good|Saint}} is executed, and evil wins.
+Ten seconds into the first day, the Mutant says to the group that they’re the Mutant. The Storyteller declares that the Mutant is executed immediately. There is no nomination for an execution today, since there can be a maximum of one execution per day.
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-The {{Evil|Imp}} is nominated, and the players vote. The {{Traveler|Gunslinger}} kills the {{Good|Saint}}. The {{Good|Saint}} dies, and the game continues.
+A {{Evil|Witch}} privately talks to the Storyteller and says that Evin, who is playing the Mutant, told them they are the {{Good|Klutz}}. The Storyteller chooses to execute the Mutant immediately.
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-The {{Good|Saint}} is executed. However, the  {{Traveler|Scapegoat}}'s ability is triggered, so the {{Traveler|Scapegoat}} dies instead. The game continues, because the {{Good|Saint}} did not die.
+The {{Good|Mutant}} tells the group that they are a Townsfolk, but does not say which one. When questioned if they are the Mutant, they stay silent. After a minute or so of silence, the Storyteller executes the Mutant.
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+The Mutant says they are the {{Good|Oracle}}, gives some bogus {{Good|Oracle}} information, then says "By the way, I am definitely not the Mutant" while giving a subtle wink. The Storyteller chooses to execute the Mutant immediately.
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 == Tips & Tricks ==
-* Do not get executed.
+* Never admit to being the Mutant. Never even admit to being an Outsider. "Admitting", of course, is a tricky thing to define. In Blood On The Clocktower, the term "mad" is used instead. What this means, is that if you try to convince anybody that you are the Mutant, the Storyteller can (and should) execute you immediately. Or, if you try to convince the group that you are an Outsider, the Storyteller can (and should) execute you immediately. This is the judgement call of the Storyteller, and the Storyteller will make their decision based on what they think you are trying to do, not just the words you use. For example, if you tell the group that "you might be the Mutant, but might not be", then the Storyteller may judge that you are trying to convince the group that you are the Mutant, and execute you. Or, if the whole group is asking what your character is, and you stay silent, refusing to say who you are, then the Storyteller may judge that your silence is a way that you are trying to convince the group that you are the Mutant, and execute you.
-* No, really. Don't. If you die by execution, the game ends, and your whole team loses. Make sure the good team knows you are the {{Good|Saint}}! Tell it in the streets! Tell it from the rooftops! Tell it to everybody! You must be believed to be a good player, or it's curtains. If you have been nominated, cry black and blue that you are the {{Good|Saint}}, loudly and publicly... the fate of the game depends on it.
+* Be proactive. Don't stay silent. As discussed above, Mutant players that stay silent the whole game tend to get executed by the Storyteller. If you talk, pick a Townsfolk to claim to be, and do your best to convince the group that you are a character other than the Mutant, then you almost certainly won't get executed. For example, if you spend the game convincing people that you are the {{Good|Oracle}}, and give the best, most sensible sounding information that you can, you won't be executed. And, if the Demon kills you because they think you are a threat, then that's fine too! After all, if you die at night, it means that another good player (which, statistically speaking, would have been a Townsfolk character) doesn't die instead.
-* To help prove that you are good, you can arrange for other good players to confirm your identity. Kill players sitting between you and an {{Good|Empath}} so that the {{Good|Empath}} learns your alignment. Convince the {{Good|Fortune Teller}} to select you of a night time to prove you are not the Demon. Find a {{Good|Ravenkeeper}} and get them to agree to choose you so they learn who you are. Get a {{Good|Slayer}} to attempt to slay you.The Demon will usually not want to kill you of a night time, so the question of who you really are will be asked by the group at some stage, and having some players back you up could be crucial.
+* Deliberately coming out as the Mutant has some benefits and some drawbacks. On the one hand, if your execution goes off, you will be confirmed as a good player, and everyone will believe you. On the other hand, that's an execution that the good team don't get to dictate themselves, and if you go off too early in the day, you can block characters like the {{Good|Savant}}. {{Good|Artist}} and {{Good|Juggler}} from using their abilities. Finally, the storyteller may simply choose not to execute you, which will leave you in an ambiguous state of unconfirmed despite not satisfying the madness of your ability... which will make you look especially evil.
-* Alternatively, either stay silent, or bluff as a juicy target for the Demon to attack, such as the {{Good|Slayer}} or the {{Good|Monk}}. If you die at night, then you remove the possibility of being executed accidentally by the good team. It's only executions that count for your ability.
+* Come out secretly to one or two players you trust. You're going to be bluffing as a townsfolk, which can look suspicious and cause problems for you down the line (especially if your information isn't adding up with what the other players are getting). Admitting the truth early on means that the people you trust will know to discount your information and protect you from accusations. (Additionally, knowing about your presence can be particularly important for determining if there is a {{Evil|Fang Gu}} around!)
-* Find out which other Outsiders are in play. If there are supposed to be two Outsiders in the game, and the only Outsiders to come out publicly are you and the {{Good|Recluse}}, for example, then even though you both look inherently suspicious, there are supposed to be two Outsiders in play, so the good team may believe that you are good for this reason alone. If you're the only one, so much the better! It must be you and a {{Good|Drunk}}
+* Beware the Storyteller! They will be on the watch for you fulfilling your madness, and it won't take too much for them to execute you, thus denying the good team a chance at killing the Demon! Avoid mentioning your true identity within earshot of the Storyteller, but ''also'' be wary about revealing to suspected evil players - they can tell the Storyteller what you've said, and get you killed that way!
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-== Bluffing as the Saint ==
+== Bluffing as the Mutant==
-When bluffing as the {{Good|Saint}}, there are a few things you should keep in mind:
-* You would never wake, learn anything, or act during the day, except on your execution, at which point the game is already over.
-* Because of the {{Good|Saint}}'s lose condition, it is easily one of the best evil bluffs in the game. It is such a risk to execute you that the good team will usually err on the side of caution and leave you alone. This does not mean that it is bulletproof; on the final day, you're at the same risk as everyone else (since if they don't execute the Demon, they lose anyway). You'll also come under a reasonable amount of scrutiny as the game progresses.
-* {{Good|Saint}} is often an excellent bluff for the {{Evil|Poisoner}} in particular. Even if the good team truly believe you to be evil, perhaps with information from all three of the {{Good|Investigator}}, {{Good|Empath}}, and {{Good|Ravenkeeper}}, the good team may still be too scared to execute you before the final day, by when you've already done all the damage you need to. You can then either get executed and win for the evil team, or if you think the good team know you're not the Demon, have the {{Evil|Imp}} attack themself in the night and make you the new Demon.
-* If you are the {{Evil|Imp}}, you know that your execution causes your team to lose if there's no {{Evil|Scarlet Woman}} in the game. Because of that, if you're slated to be executed and try desperately to save yourself, the good team may correctly interpret that as a Demon trying to save themselves, at least long enough to kill themself and pass on the responsibilities to a Minion. That is severely limited by the {{Good|Saint}} bluff, however - they may read that you want to avoid execution to stop your team from losing, but not know which team that is.
-* Bluffing as the {{Good|Saint}} in a game with no {{Evil|Baron}} can be tricky since you will likely be conflicting with other Outsiders. Fortunately, your lose condition makes you a larger threat to execute over a {{Good|Butler}} or {{Good|Recluse}}; use this to your advantage to leverage the execution of a good player.
-* You may be detected as evil at some point during the game. A great counter-argument is that because you are the {{Good|Saint}}, you are being targeted by the Storyteller. For example, you could say you are the {{Good|Fortune Teller}}'s false positive, or that an {{Good|Empath}} getting an evil read on you is actually {{Good|Drunk}}.
-* Good players benefit from bluffing as the {{Good|Saint}} as well! Demons are unlikely to target a {{Good|Saint}} since they would much rather they be executed. Using this to your advantage can allow you to survive a few days longer as an {{Good|Empath}} or {{Good|Fortune Teller}}.
+When bluffing as the {{Good|Mutant}}, there are a few things you should keep in mind:
-* If you are executed, it will become immediately obvious you are not the {{Good|Saint}} when the game doesn't end. Be prepared to have a back up bluff, such as the {{Good|Recluse}}, or a powerful Townsfolk who didn't want to die (like the {{Good|Undertaker}} or {{Good|Slayer}}).
+* The Mutant is an excellent fallback bluff if your more difficult/risky claim is falling apart under you. As a Mutant, it would make sense that your {{Good|Oracle}} information doesn't add up, since you're lying to cover for yourself!
-* Beware of {{Good|Slayer}}(s)! The {{Good|Saint}} is usually a very powerful bluff to keep yourself safe from execution, but if a {{Good|Slayer}} is in play, they will very likely want to test you, and would not trigger the {{Good|Saint}}'s lose condition using their ability. One good way to circumvent this is to have a Minion bluff as the {{Good|Saint}}, get slayed, and then have the {{Evil|Imp}} pass the Demonhood to them after that.
+* If you reveal your "identity", the Storyteller can't execute you, since you aren't actually the Mutant. Blame this on the Mutant's "might" condition - the storyteller only executes you at their discretion, and might spare a Mutant to make them look more suspicious/avoid confirming information for the town. Claim this is what is happening when you are not executed.
-* If you get nominated, drop any previous bluff and come out as the {{Good|Saint}}. Claim that your previous information and character were a ploy to attempt to get the Demon to target you. This will usually give the good team significant pause.
+* "Reveal" secretly to a couple of players to gain their trust. This is a good move as a regular Mutant, and if they believe you, they'll cover for you when other players become suspicious of your haphazard or confusing information claims. Because your death is an execution that takes control away from the good team, players will be compelled to protect you and your identity. This will also serve to keep them preoccupied in the meantime, which is a nice bonus for you!
-* Don't be afraid to claim to be the {{Good|Saint}}, even if there's already one in play. The good team can usually resolve cases of two players claiming to be the same character by executing them both in either order, but this is not possible to do with the {{Good|Saint}}.
+* The Mutant doesn't have a lot of information, and is a hard bluff to pull off logically. Try to play the 'emotional' side of the character instead. Appealing to people to help safeguard your true identity, acting nervous around the Storyteller and players suspected of evil, and trying your best to be helpful are all hallmarks of a real Mutant player!
-* Claiming to be an Outsider can obfuscate the presence of the {{Good|Drunk}}, or cause the good team to think that a {{Evil|Baron}} is in play.
+* One huge advantage of bluffing Mutant is the ability to confuse the Outsider count. Urgently whispering to good players that "that {{Good|Sweetheart}} is lying, because I'm the real Outsider!" introduces the danger of a {{Evil|Fang Gu}} being the demon in play. At the very least, it casts doubt on existing Outsiders when they come out, since you've added yourself to their number. The secretive nature of the Mutant makes this an especially potent tactic since you can (and should) convince other players to argue about your existence for you, meaning the poor real Outsiders will have a harder time confronting you directly and tracing your terrible lies back to your evil team!
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