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	{{Jinx\|Boffin\|boffin\|Evil\|The Demon cannot have the Heretic ability.}}		{{Jinx\|Boffin\|boffin\|Evil\|The Demon cannot have the Heretic ability.}}
	{{Jinx\|Godfather\|godfather\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}		{{Jinx\|Godfather\|godfather\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Lleech\|lleech\|Evil\|~~If the Lleech has poisoned the Heretic then the Lleech dies, the Heretic remains poisoned~~.}}		{{Jinx\|Lleech\|lleech\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Pit-Hag\|pithag\|Evil\|~~A Pit-Hag~~ can ~~not create a Heretic~~.}}		{{Jinx\|Pit-Hag\|pithag\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Spy\|spy\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}		{{Jinx\|Spy\|spy\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Widow\|widow\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}		{{Jinx\|Widow\|widow\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}

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			<td>Revealed</td>
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	* If the game ends due to the good team winning, then all good players lose, and all evil players win.		* If the game ends due to the good team winning, then all good players lose, and all evil players win.
	* If the game ends due to the evil team winning, then all evil players lose, and all good players win.		* If the game ends due to the evil team winning, then all evil players lose, and all good players win.
	* ~~This~~ Heretic’s ability applies to all victory conditions, including the game ending due to just two players being alive, the Demon dying, or an ability ending the game.		* The Heretic’s ability applies to all victory conditions, including the game ending due to just two players being alive, the Demon dying, or an ability ending the game.
	* The Heretic’s ability functions even when the Heretic is dead, but not when the Heretic is drunk or poisoned.		* The Heretic’s ability functions even when the Heretic is dead, but not when the Heretic is drunk or poisoned.
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	== How to Run ==		== How to Run ==

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			<td>Artist</td>
			<td>John Grist</td>
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	The Heretic turns a win into a loss, and a loss into a win.		The Heretic turns a win into a loss, and a loss into a win.
	*		* If the game ends due to the good team winning, then all good players lose, and all evil players win.
	*		* If the game ends due to the evil team winning, then all evil players lose, and all good players win.
			* This Heretic’s ability applies to all victory conditions, including the game ending due to just two players being alive, the Demon dying, or an ability ending the game.
			* The Heretic’s ability functions even when the Heretic is dead, but not when the Heretic is drunk or poisoned.
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	== How to Run ==		== How to Run ==

			If the game ends and the evil team would have won, declare that the good team wins and the evil team loses.

			If the game ends and the good team would have won, declare that the evil team wins and the good team loses.
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The Heretic turns a win into a loss, and a loss into a win.

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== Character Text ==

"Whoever wins, loses & whoever loses, wins, even if you are dead."
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== Examples ==

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On the first day, the {{Good|Heretic}} publicly claims to be the {{Good|Heretic}}. That night, the Demon kills themself. Evil wins.
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The {{Good|Heretic}} does not reveal their character until the final day, when 3 players are alive. They convince the good team to execute a good player, leaving 2 players alive, one of which is the Demon. Good wins.
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The {{Good|Heretic}} is dead. The {{Good|Saint}} is executed. Good wins.
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The {{Good|Heretic}} is poisoned. The {{Evil|Assassin}} kills the Demon. Good wins.
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There are 3 players alive. The Demon is executed. Because there is a {{Good|Heretic}} in play, evil wins.
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== Tips & Tricks ==

* Keep the Demon alive at all costs. Normally, in non-{{Good|Heretic}} games, the good team can win at any time (by executing the Demon), while the evil team can only win on the final day (by executing a non-Demon player). In a {{Good|Heretic}} game, the evil team can win at any time (by executing the Demon), while the good team can only win on the final day (by executing a non-Demon player).

* It is extremely dangerous for the evil team to learn that there is a {{Good|Heretic}} in play. If the Demon believes you, they may kill themself at night, losing the game, and therefore winning the game. Be very careful who you reveal yourself to.

* If you believe that the good team is losing badly, it may be safest to not reveal your identity to anyone, ever.

* Consider waiting until the final day of the game to out yourself as the {{Good|Heretic}}. This is risky, because people may not believe you, but it’s better than having the Demon kill themself in the night and immediately win the game for evil. If you loudly proclaim that you are the {{Good|Heretic}} when only three players are alive, even if you are dead, the good team will know that they need to execute a player that is NOT the Demon, and deliberately lose the game, which will win the game.

* Search for good players who are able to confirm you as the {{Good|Heretic}}, then work with them to orchestrate what would normally be a loss.

* Try to find a good player such as the {{Good|Courtier}} who is capable of making you drunk or poisoned. This will enable the good team to play for the win without fear of losing instead.

* Pay attention to characters that have win or lose conditions in their character ability, such as the {{Good|Mayor}}, {{Good|Klutz}}, {{Good|Saint}}, {{Evil|Mastermind}}, or {{Evil|Goblin}}. If you stay quiet about being the {{Good|Heretic}}, the evil team may unknowingly be working to your advantage. For example, if the {{Evil|Goblin}} gets executed, good wins, or if an evil player is bluffing as the {{Good|Mayor}} and convinces the group to not execute on the final day, good wins.

* If you think that the good team is about to execute the Demon, you'll need to convince them otherwise. You can bluff as a Townsfolk character with conflicting information, or hint to them that executing this player is a bad, bad idea. As a last resort, reveal that you are the {{Good|Heretic}} to dissuade them - avoiding the Demon being executed definitely results in avoiding a loss, but the Demon may or may not kill themself that night. It's better to trade a definite loss for a possible (or even, probable) loss.

* When just three players are left alive, it is safe to reveal that you are the {{Good|Heretic}}, since the game will end before nightfall. The good team may find this to be absolutely crucial information.

* When just four players are left alive, it might be safe to reveal that you are the {{Good|Heretic}}, since the game could end during the night via the Demon attacking as normal. The good team may find this to be absolutely crucial information. However, there is still an opportunity for the Demon to kill themself, so be wary.

* It is often smarter to never really be 100% on what you claim to be. For example, if you claim that you are either the {{Good|Heretic}} or the {{Good|Moonchild}}, then the good team is made aware that a {{Good|Heretic}} might be in play, and can adjust their strategy accordingly, while the Demon is not convinced enough to take the game-ending step of killing themselves. Or, if you bluff as the {{Good|Juggler}}, then claim to be the {{Good|Heretic}}, then bluff as the {{Good|Snake Charmer}}, again the good team is clued in to the possibility of a {{Good|Heretic}}, but the Demon isn't sure. Unlike other characters, ambiguity is your friend. Just make sure you are 100% forthright with being the {{Good|Heretic}} when it really counts, such as the final day!

* It doesn't matter if you die. If you get nominated, there is no need to defend yourself unless you want to. If the Demon kills you at night, it's no problem. Don't worry about staying alive.

* You hold the fate of the game in your hands. Very few characters have this power. Remember how important you are. All other Townsfolk and Outsider characters are written in such a way as to encourage you to "say whatever you want at any time", that even making mistakes won't end the game. For example, even if the {{Good|Mutant}} reveals who they are and is executed, the game continues. Even if the {{Good|Fortune Teller}} reveals who they are and dies on night 2, the game continues. But the {{Good|Heretic}} is different. The words of the {{Good|Heretic}} can sway the fate of the good team drastically and quickly. Even though you are an Outsider, you are the most dangerous good player in the game - to both teams.
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== Bluffing as the Heretic ==

When bluffing as the {{Good|Heretic}}, there are a few things you should keep in mind:

* Most {{Good|Heretic}}s will wait until the final day to reveal themselves. If you want to bluff as the {{Good|Heretic}} in this way, you'll need either to stay silent about your character for the majority of the game, or bluff as another character first. Depending on the group, this type of behaviour may get you executed before the final day arrives. Minions may not fear being executed, especially as the {{Good|Heretic}} ability continues to function while dead. But a Demon bluffing as a {{Good|Heretic}} is risky indeed. Come up with an alternate bluff to use first - and make it believable.

* Keep {{Good|Heretic}} in mind as a backup bluff. If your first bluff doesn't cut the mustard, then claiming that you were lying because you are the {{Good|Heretic}} is fairly believable. {{Good|Heretic}}s have a good reason to lie. If your first bluff succeeds, then you don't need to claim to be the {{Good|Heretic}}, so feel free to make it a risky, ridiculous one!

* If a fellow evil player has been nominated, and you really need to keep that player alive, suddenly claim to be the {{Good|Heretic}}, and claim that you think the group is about to execute the Demon, and lose the game. If the good team is rattled enough, especially considering that they thought the nominee was evil enough to be nominated in the first place, they may back off immediately and vote on a different player.

* If two evil players claim to be the {{Good|Heretic}}, it will seem that one of them must be telling the truth, and the other evil. Normally, when two evil players both claim to be the same good character, the group will want to execute both players, believing one to be good and one to be evil. However, if the good team believes that one player is evil, and one really is the {{Good|Heretic}}, then they may choose to keep both players alive out of fear of accidentally executing the Demon.

* A real {{Good|Heretic}} is unlikely to come out loud and proud on day 1. If you are more coy, hinting that you might be the {{Good|Heretic}} without definitely confirming so, you will seem more convincing.

* Pay a lot of attention to who the good team is planning on executing. Unlike other bluffs, where if the good team believes you they will probably not execute you, if the good team believes you, they may execute you because they now want to execute good players, particularly late in the game. If the good team believes that a {{Good|Heretic}} is in play, their strategy will reverse. Make sure this is actually what you want beforehand.

* If you are a good player, consider bluffing as the {{Good|Heretic}}. If the evil team believes you, they may convince their Demon to kill themself at night, winning the game for the good team! However, if there actually is a real {{Good|Heretic}} in play, you've accidentally helped the evil team win instead. It's pretty risky! Also, bluffing as the {{Good|Heretic}} causes a lot of confusion among the good team, as they won't know for certain what their goals are. However, the occasional good player that bluffs as the {{Good|Heretic}} will certainly make Demon players doubt whether or not taking the risk of suicide at night is worth it, as many games are played. For the good team, Demons that doubt real {{Good|Heretic}} claims are certainly beneficial, and this can only happen when the occasional good player bluffs as the {{Good|Heretic}}.

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	{{Jinx\|Baron\|baron\|Evil\|~~The Baron might only add~~ 1 ~~Outsider, not 2~~.}}		{{Jinx\|Baron\|baron\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Boffin\|boffin\|Evil\|The Demon cannot have the Heretic ability.}}		{{Jinx\|Boffin\|boffin\|Evil\|The Demon cannot have the Heretic ability.}}
	{{Jinx\|Godfather\|godfather\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}		{{Jinx\|Godfather\|godfather\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Lleech\|lleech\|Evil\|~~If the Lleech has poisoned the Heretic then the Lleech dies, the Heretic remains poisoned~~.}}		{{Jinx\|Lleech\|lleech\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Pit-Hag\|pithag\|Evil\|~~A Pit-Hag~~ can ~~not create a Heretic~~.}}		{{Jinx\|Pit-Hag\|pithag\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Spy\|spy\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}		{{Jinx\|Spy\|spy\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}
	{{Jinx\|Widow\|widow\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}		{{Jinx\|Widow\|widow\|Evil\|Only 1 jinxed character can be in play.}}